Violent “Ammo” Threat, Dishonesty, Unsafe Act Together Justified Dismissal: Ontario Arbitrator


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An employee who had been previously disciplined for threatening to bring “ammo” into work, was properly dismissed where shortly afterwards he committed an unsafe act and was repeatedly dishonest.

The “ammo” violence threat had resulted in a previous arbitration award in which the arbitrator reinstated the employee with a 128-day suspension and strict last-chance conditions. That arbitrator, who found that the employee had lied to the employer in its “ammo” threat investigation, had stated that “it is sensible to make any reinstatement conditional on future good behaviour”.

Five days after being reinstated, the employee committed an unsafe act at work in relation to the use of a “spreader bar”. He had also walked out of a meeting with company management, and was again dishonest to his employer in the course of its investigation. The employer fired the employee and the union again grieved the firing.

Ruling on the second dismissal, Arbitrator Peter Chauvin held that the grievor, who did not testify at the hearing, “has not done anything to cause me to believe that he accepts that he did anything wrong in connection with his use of the spreader bar, his dishonest statements to Mr. Hastings, or his insubordination in walking out of the meeting with Mr. Lepine, Mr. White and Mr. Black. The Grievor has clearly not in any way acknowledged this misconduct, and has not shown any remorse or offered any apology for it. Again, and quite to the contrary, the Grievor denied that he engaged in any such misconduct to Mr. Hastings, and chose to not testify at the arbitration hearing. In doing so, he certainly did not acknowledge his misconduct, or show remorse for it, at the arbitration hearing.”

Arbitrator Chauvin also held that it was a “very serious aggravating factor that the Grievor was not open and honest with the Employer at the time of the investigation”, particularly as the previous arbitrator had held that the employee had been dishonest in the employer’s “ammo” investigation.

This decision demonstrates that employers are entitled to demand honesty of employees during workplace investigations, and that repeated dishonesty, whether or not combined with other disciplinary offences, can justify dismissal.

National Steel Car Limited v United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union, Local 7135, 2012 CanLII 25292 (ON LA)


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